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IMPORTANT INFORMATION EVERY SELLER NEEDS TO KNOW!

 

You have a piece of equipment for sale!  You have to find a buyer which means that you have to market that item.  For the best results, you want to make sure that as many people as possible see that you have this equipment for sale and that the people seeing it really are interested and qualified to buy.  Not an easy task!  It's long been discovered that internet marketing can be used to reach an unlimited number of potential buyers.  Unfortunately, like with so many other things, as soon as the 'good' side was discovered, there were those already figuring out how to use something positive for a very personal and underhanded motives.  Today, we know that as 'spam.' 

 

The heavy equipment and farm machinery industries have been targeted very hard in recent years.  The type of equipment and dollar value of many of the items often require a longer time period to find just that right buyer.  It can lead to an almost 'desperate' desire to find a buyer, and it can leave a seller in a very vulnerable state - and these 'not so desirable' people know that - and take advantage of it.  Though spam is a problem that continues to double year in and year out, sellers of machinery and equipment have been targeted by even a more devious type of predator - 'con artists.'  And, they are getting braver!  No longer limiting themselves to making contact via the internet only, they now are using telephones and even making personal appearances. 

 

We here at American-ag.com understand that a variety of marketing methods, including the internet, is a powerful tool to the sale of your equipment.  We utilize many of them, and each week equipment is sold in legitimate transactions arising from the various methods of marketing that we employ.  We have implemented as many procedures as possible in order to protect our clients.  We are more than happy to assist state and federal governments in their attempts to clean these practices up, to regulate them, and to enforce strict penalties for violations.  We work hard to educate and forewarn our clients about the potential dangers out there.  We go above and beyond the required precautions to protect the people that we work with.  However, as soon as one technology is invented, the con artists seem to find a way to circumvent it - so, you're greatest protection is to be aware and to take necessary precautions to protect yourself. 

 

Below is a list of the most common types of scams and little 'triggers' that you should be on the lookout for whenever you are dealing with a potential buyer that you do not know:

 

1.  Inquiries coming from other countries have a high potential of being fradulent.

 

Common sense would tell you that virtually anywhere in the world, a buyer can obtain the equipment they are looking for.  Why then, would someone incur higher costs and problems looking for equipment half a world away?

 

Return e-mails that include 2 characters represent codes for different countries, and whether the e-mail specifically states that they are abroad or not - if you see that, the transmission is being generated outside the country.  For example - .au represents Austrailia, .uk represents the United Kingdom, and so on.

 

Not all e-mails that are foreign have these extensions.  However, may of the e-mails used for contact today are written in very poor English and that is a very noticeable sign.

 

2.  Offers from interested buyers claiming to be with 'financial institutions' - both foreign and domestic. 

 

3.  Numerous offers from the same person, or the same offer (with the same person's name in the e-mail) but coming from different e-mail addresses.

 

This is especially easy to see if you have more than one item for sale as you will probably receive one for each item.  If it looks like it's a form letter - it probably is.  These people go through classified sections both on-line and in print - and simply go down the list.  The type of equipment, the price, the details - it makes no difference to them since they have no intention of paying for it in the first place.  Whatever piece of equipment they may end up with has some type of value, and if it cost them nothing - whatever they get out of it, they're money ahead.  Plus, they have another intention in mind to further enhance their profitability, which is discussed in greater detail below.

 

4.  Buyers wanting to use cashier's checks, certified checks, or money orders! 

 

This is the number one scam currently taking place.  Throughout time, these financial instruments have been trustworthy - as good as money in the bank.  Better printing techniques now allow very authentic looking instruments to be manufactured - that is no longer true.  They may look very real - but once presented to a bank for payment, are refused.  ALWAYS VERIFY FUNDS PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE TRANSACTION!

 

5.  Offers to pay more than the asking price of your equipment

 

Common sense would tell you 'why?'  Afterall, when is the last time that you voluntarily offered to pay more for an item than was being asked? 

 

Some scams claim that they are paying more because they require your 'assistance.'  That is usually another 'trigger' that all in not well in the transaction.  Again - verify the funds prior to the completing the transaction!

 

6.  Giving back 'change'

 

A scam artist may have a reason as to 'why' the check or money order has already been made out for above the purchase price - or why they need to have it made out for more.  Then, they ask if you will remit the difference back to them in cash!  It's quite a deal - for them! 

 

While we can't say with 100% certainty that there would never be a time when this might be involved in a legitimate transaction - we would not advise anyone to do this.

 

7.  Questionable transportation arrangements or buyers insistent on using their own provider

 

Potential buyers may tell you not to worry about shipping - they've taken care of it and they have their own transportation company they'll be using, so you need not get involved. 

 

Others may ask if it will be acceptable to you for them to use their own shipping company.  They may even go so far as to want you release funds to the person acting as the shipper. 

 

This is a very clear indication that things are not on the up-and-up.  Any reputable company who transports an item will have a paper trail of exactly where that item went.  A person coordinating a fradulent transaction doesn't want that paper trail, so they send their own 'shipping' company - which may amount to a co-conspirator - and as soon as they drive away - they and your equipment vanish into thin air.  Anyone too overly concerned about which company transports an item or refuses your offer to arrange shipping is someone to take a very close look at.

 

In a nutshell, the most common type of scam being run on sellers today goes something along these lines.  Below is an actual e-mail being used today, and there are many of them, with slight variations:

 

Hello,

 

I just place a look on your tractor and i am interested in immediate purchase, but before i proceed on this transaction i will like to ask some question as follow.  1.  Do you accept a (Cashier Check/Money Order) as a mode of payment? 2.  What is the final asking price you can go at last?  3.  Will you let our shipping company to come to your location for the pick up of the tractor cos we don't want you to worry yourself about the shipping of the car our private shpping company i'll responsible for that. 4 How long have you had the tractor, what is the working condition.  5 if you agreed with out term, sen me your Full Name, Contact address, tel # to mail out the payment today.  5.  Will you be able to send the excess fund back to the shipper company via western union money transfer same day your receive the check for the shipping freight, booking and registration form for the picked and some necessary document to attached to the pick up of the tractor

 

Again, this is an actual e-mail that we received, and continue to receive over and over - on virtually every piece of equipment.  As you can see - it has it all! 

 

So, does protecting yourself mean not marketing your item? 

 

Of course not!  If you don't market it - you'll probably never sell it!  And, if you wait until someone you personally know suddenly has a need or an interest, you'll probably be in for a long wait!  However, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.  Excercising common sense and taking precations is the key.  Remember, that you are the seller and as such, you have every right to not only question things that don't make sense, you have a responsibility to yourself not to become a victim! Below are some things you can do to avoid finding yourself in this situation:

 

1.  Avoid establishing contact with buyers that exhibit all the signs of being a scam artist. They may have contacted you, but there's nothing determining that you have to contact them back.  Receiving something like that letter above - our recommended course of action is to hit the 'delete' key.  A reputable buyer is out there.  Why put yourself in a vulnerable position?

 

2.  Ask questions - as many as you need to, and expect answers that make sense.  If you can't get any - thank the person for their interest and terminate the negotiations.  Don't let a person's pushiness or forcefulness push you into doing something that you feel isn't right.  Continuing contact in a situation like that gives them the upper hand.  If you find yourself in a situation that you are not comfortable with - thank them and tell them that you are not interested! 

 

3.  Be involved in the transaction details.  As the seller, you have every right to determine what the terms of the sale will include.  Again, if things are getting out of hand - it's most likely an indication of trouble. 

 

4.  Never release your equipment or excess funds until the you have verified the validity of the financial instrument (by taking it to your bank), and preferably have received the funds.  Your bank will probably still put a 'hold' on those funds - you should hold your equipment for that period, too.  Don't be pressured into this 'same' day turnaround.  If you've ever made a large purchase, think back to it.  Did you need one day settlement?  Why would anyone else? In reality, there's only one reason that someone would need 'same day turnaround' and that is in order to 'disappear.'  

 

In fact, any transaction with somewhat questionable terms can be referred to an escrow company, - and we recommend using one whenever there is some doubt. They will make the arrangements, and both buyer and seller can rest assured.  If a buyer refuses, even if you offer to cover the costs entirely - that's another clear indication that everything is not quite right.

 

American-ag & Heavy Equipment is very committed to the prevention of spam and scams originating via the internet.  It is a black mark against all legitimate web-based companies, and it's time to take an active role in the prevention of it.  We report spam and identies associated with 'spamers' to both their ISPs and to any regulating agencies that are interested.  We keep and track copies of suspect communications, but that information does no one any good tucked away.  Therefore, we are publishing a list of e-mail addresses in which questionable (and numerous) e-mails have originated from.  If you are contacted by anyone on this list - please exercise extreme care should you decide to establish contact back. 

 

 

a.hooijen@hotmail.com

abnmachine@yahoo.com

adams102113@yahoo.co.uk

adeleke_okla1@yahoo.com

adsnas@yahoo.ca

aesygoing_2005@hotmail.com

alabama1@fastermail.com

alanwar72@hotmail.com 

alex-sp36@yandex.ru

alex.scotts@yahoo.com

alexhaulagehandling_inc@yahoo.com

alfredsavimbi42@hotmail.com

almadiovi02@yahoo.com

almadiovi14@yahoo.com

alteralbert3@yahoo.com

amaking12@yahoo.com

andrebon23@yahoo.com

andrew_sokolovsky@yahoo.com

anthonypowell_inc@look.com 

apaul005@yahoo.com

ashleyclark01@yahoo.com

aslumgg@yahoo.com

b_md1960@yahoo.com

b_williams115@yahoo.com

balackorjames@yahoo.com 

ben_miller_102@yahoo.com

ben_simons@healthgem.info

bencash_255@yahoo.com

benchase089@yahoo.com

bentleysonky@yahoo.com

benmaxwell04@yahoo.com

biggest_charles@yahoo.com

biggest_charles1@hotmail.com

bishalmoore5@yahoo.com

blessing5_koromah@yahoo.fr

bob_wash2006@yahoo.co.uk

bobby_anderson007@yahoo.com

bourg201@yahoo.fr

brain_kerry@yahoo.com

brianmorgan01@yahoo.com

brianpoyet008@yahoo.com

bryanhicks1985@yahoo.com

buoyant1955@hotmail.com

buyandsell2010@fastermail.com

c_komo224@yahoo.com

capital_link@hotmail.com

carlbaker_00@yahoo.com

carlton_mchl@yahoo.com

carlvolle@latinmail.com

cartonnorte@prodigy.net.mx

ccalvinbroaduss@yahoo.co.uk

ccq@isl.is

cerahandler@gmail.com

chariy01@yahoo.com

charlesjohnson256@yahoo.com

charles_lawrence080@yahoo.com 

chris_elie567@yahoo.com

chris_moore205@yahoo.com

chrinoel@gmail.com

cliemic20@yahoo.co.uk

ck14240@alltel.net

cocco_pixixix@yahoo.com

cody_kw@yahoo.com

colejohnson010@hotmail.com

colemic20@yahoo.co.uk

cole_oluwatosin@yahoo.com

colincetaga02@yahoo.com

collins_carrie02@yahoo.co.uk

collins_invest1986@yahoo.com

consult_carbuyer_007@yahoo.co.uk

cphnk@rim.net

cosmoedmund@yahoo.com

cssutter@sasktel.net

currentmembers@linusmail.org

dcoxiz@yahoo.com

davitascreation@inbox.com

dscott_ultimate03@yahoo.co.uk

dan_terry199@yahoo.com

david_kany@yahoo.com

davidanddavelimited@yahoo.com

davidhuffman256@yahoo.com

davisfurniture@yahoo.co.uk

dejifunky@yahoo.com

delmardhilliard@emmawatsonworld.com

demoborichy@yahoo.com

disc_jockey628@yahoo.com

dnwelsch07@yahoo.com

do-not-reply@cscu.org

don_smith20001@yahoo.com

donald1970@yahoo.com

donaldbusiness007@yahoo.com

donaldswann_hike@yahoo.com

dondadadecaprio@yahoo.com

dr.kelvinjohn007@yahoo.com

ebensng@yahoo.co.uk

edwardcardoza@hotmail.com

ekulu2003@yahoo.com

el_mustaphaibrahim2001@yahoo.fr

ellenefosterr@yahoo.com 

elisa112006@yahoo.se

elitangoni@yahoo.com.uk

elizibethmorgan_234@yahoo.com

energy_equipment@mail.com

enriqueturner@yahoo.com

erebasco1111@yahoo.com

erniechqaoa@racqi.com.au
essiema@codec.ro

euromillion06n1@yahoo.de

fa_rahman04@yahoo.co.jp

fah_hans@yahoo.com

faithjohn11@yahoo.co.jp

fchaves@guancastepartner.com 

filan.john@yahoo.co.uk

filthyrichdude7@yahoo.com

flapper_inc3@yahoo.com

folachord@yahoo.com

foster.koh@gmail.com

fosterfrank_xxx@yahoo.com

francis.steadman@hotmail.com

francis.steadman@hotmail.co.uk

franckahole_2002@yahoo.com

frankex_11221@yahoo.com

frankgeorge0033@aol.co.uk

frankieautos205@yahoo.com

frankse07@yahoo.com

fred.stone1@yahoo.se

fred_mort008@yahoo.com

g_dodo009@yahoo.com

gabbsdad@yahoo.com

gabriel1960@inbox.com

gator1@fuse.net

gbenga_shola@yahoo.com

gafaru4u@yahoo.com

garymechanicworks@yahoo.com 

gbamericagb@yahoo.com

gbtravelsltd@fastermail.com

genegenemariano@yahoo.com

georgewest01@gmail.com

gerald55muana@hotmail.com

globalfleetbrokers@yahoo.com

goodupfit01@yahoo.com 

grace-kk6@yahoo.com.sq

gracious55g@yahoo.fr

grandliners@usa.com

grayconsult113@yahoo.com

hbackley@yahoo.co.uk

hallame003@yahoo.com

handsumstud@yahoo.com

harrisonrussel@yahoo.com

harryllaww@yahoo.com

havepeacewithinyouu@yahoo.co.uk

hazimzamal21@hotmail.com

hazimzamal51@hotmail.com

hen2@kittymail.com

henryhuffman1@yahoo.com

henryscottfarm@yahoo.com

howard_james_company_alternative@yahoo.com

iattractmoney@optusnet.com.au

indiansoftwarecompany@rediffmail.com

info@azfcu.org

info4dewallyjohnson@yahoo.co.uk

inforog@aol.fr

j.smith_000@yahoo.com

j.wood2007@yahoo.com

jipuller@yahoo.com 

james_co_company@yahoo.com

james_chamber0009@yahoo.com

jamescontrol1@operamail.com

james.effenburg@gmail.com

jamesjamesjohn@aol.com

jameskarlon4me@yahoo.com

jamesmathins4reality09@hotmail.com

jamesrothen@gmail.com

jamessletten2000@yahoo.com

jamesunsworth05@yahoo.com

jamieepps42@yahoo.com

jamy_cliff002@yahoo.it

jan_wowcool006@hotmail.com

jane01_ken01@yahoo.com

janetdiscon@hotmail.com

jannysmith200@yahoo.com  

jaunsworth001051@inmail24.com

jay.walter101@yahoo.com

jayken1982@yahoo.com

jeanmauriceboutin@videotran.ca

jenna39@gaweb.com

jenniveev@graffiti.net

jennyvyy@yahoo.com

jeremy_mike@myway.com

jeremy_mike003@yahoo.co.uk

jeremy_joe003@yahoo.com.uk  

jerry_harry01@yahoo.com

jerry_pets2006@yahoo.com

jgoenscps@inbox.com

jjwatson6@yahoo.com

jjjaykee1@yahoo.com

jnt_sml@yahoo.com

joe_james112@yahoo.com

joe_shipcare@hotmail.com

joe_smith007@yahoo.com

john.badmus@yahoo.com

john_parker019@yahoo.com

johnaziwah38@yahoo.co.in

john_ben501@yahoo.com

john_ben5000@yahoo.com

johnbley2007cool@hotmail.com

johney_will@yahoo.com

johnmicheal0000@yahoo.com

johnsmithfreemind01@yahoo.com

johnsonkenneth400@yahoo.com

joleensydney@gmail.com

jonacolecompany@yahoo.com

jones.mcfinland01@yahoo.com

jrillgreen@yahoo.com

juan_lee01@yahoo.co.uk

juan_lee04@yahoo.co.uk

junmagzz24@inMail24.com

junmagzz33@inMail33.com

justdome_4real@yahoo.com

justinadvert001@yahoo.com

k_a_n_e_eve@yahoo.co.uk

kakajohn2@yahoo.com 

kate004@nyc.com

katrinabray01@yahoo.com

kelly_son_wilson@hotmail.com

kelnkelvin750@yahoo.ca

kelvin_damacus123@yahoo.com

kelvinmatt_007@yahoo.com

ken_dennis01@yahoo.com

kenadvert212@yahoo.com

kenderickpotter112@yahoo.com

kenny.rash@gmail.com

kerrysmth004@yahoo.com

kevintoure06@yahoo.co.jp

kinstin_moore567@yahoo.com

kirk12@inMail24.com

kirk14@inMail24.com

kkk_ttt@yahoo.com

koutaba0043@hotmail.com

kristy1982@yahoo.com 

lam+adeshina7@yahoo.com

lamidoasso1@ig.com.br

lampardieresi004@yahoo.com

landwoodfunz@yahoo.com

larrana@speedymail.org

larry022007@hotmail.co.uk

larrysteve69@yahoo.com

laurell@netcitytw.com

lewis_ag1@yahoo.co.uk

lilian_mmm1b@yahoo.co.jp

lilian-m16@yahoo.com

linjames@netzero.net

liocor@wowmail.com

lizaloiewski@gmail.com

lloyds_palmer2340@yahoo.co.uk

loebronny@yahoo.co.uk

longfellowspdx@comcast.net

lopezz16@inmail24.com (This one has man different numbers after the lopezz)

lottiesprung7288@aol.com

lukumon_2love_id@yahoo.com

m.seka@maisbarcelos.pt

m_muktar002@yahoo.com

mac_jeanes004@yahoo.com

malik_blck2@yahoo.com

mandyautodept@yahoo.com

mandyautodept1@yahoo.com

maria2fill@yahoo.com

mariaalfred_001@yahoo.com

mariam_williams38@hotmail.com

mariana_j2000@yahoo.co.uk

marisamayor2001@hotmail.fr

mark_jonathan2003@yahoo.com

markfrank1vv1@yahoo.it

markfrankk11v@yahoo.it

marycprettyinvestment2@yahoo.com

marryjenn@gmail.com

marry_jenn@yahoo.com

mary4k003@yahoo.co.jp

maryan0528@gmail.com

marygate_001@yahoo.com

marymike1@worldemail.com  

matloyd02@yahoo.com

maxwellguq@briankennedy.co.uk

maxwell_johnny200@yahoo.com.uk

may4usmak@yahoo.ca

mcduff_john2006@yahoo.co.uk

mic.1973@yahoo.com

mic_john213@yahoo.com

michael_j4tarr@yahoo.com

michael_jones_12@hotmail.com

michaelgrizla@faithmail.com

michelle19999999@yahoo.com

mikeadam_2008@yahoo.com

miky_timy_290@yahoo.com

mjload@netcitycn.com

mmrg_22@yahoo.com

mmtekno@gmail.com

modellaq@yahoo.com

mrs.m_campbell1@hotmail.com 

mrwatts@charter.net

musawilliams@orangemail.es

nbriggs100@littlefishs.org

nedlottobv@walla.com

neildickey@moskowmail.com

neiljohnson23@yahoo.com.uk

nzinternational@gmail.com

nuella_wills@yahoo.com

ombo65@inmail24.com
online@ctawbavalleybank.com

onlyphase3@yahoo.com

opefunoluwa.kruger@yahoo.com

osei4@btinternet.com

osramslam104@yahoo.com

omowapa2005@yahoo.com 

palthwilthon001@yahoo.com

pamtoss_inco@yahoo.com

papitofuria@hotmail.com

parkerpaul_hunter101@hotmail.com

path_ynate@yahoo.com

paul_1880@yahoo.com

pauldakotan22100@hotmail.fr

paulhenryii@yahoo.fr

paulraynational@yahoo.com

peckinvestment@yahoo.com

pet_prt@yahoomail.com

peterudah1@aim.com

phieyd@gmail.com

pixixix3@yahoo.de

pped_30@yahoo.co.jp

prao@cactus.dk

priceller_mbuto8000@yahoo.ca

qmcsharon@yahoo.com

rachel_lm66@yahoo.com

ray_smith@palmademallorca.es

raygray005@yahoo.com

raymond@raymond07.orangehome.co.uk

raymondburen@aim.com

reena_buyer101@yahoo.com

rev.joe_mark@yahoo.com

richardavidcare012@gmail.com

richardjulius_x@yahoo.com

richybee55@yahoo.com

rllposmn@net.ua

robin049@gmail.com

robbin_st01@yahoo.com

robbyduece123@rediff.com

rodandsusan@yahoo.com

roland_john@hotmail.com

rolls2play3@yahoo.com

rosepage999@yahoo.com

rouchco@opuration@yahoo.com

rwaccomplishwealth@iol.pt

sales3@mivasa.com

sandra4real501@gmail.com

sarah_demo777@yahoo.com

sbalogun@hotmail.com

scott_0_1@usa.com 

scottammysupplyneed@yahoo.com.uk

scottoz01@yahoo.com

selina.r_benson1@yahoo.com

semajunsworth05@yahoo.com

senajerry1@yahoo.com

shantalanandargi@yahoo.com.in

sherrydwright@yahoo.com

shing_li@adelphia.net

silverline_in@representative.com

silverline_inc@representative.com

simonjorge@doramail.com

sintiagetheds@yahoo.com

sink@c-able.ne.jp

sintiagetheds@yahoo.com 

smbil123@yahoo.com

smith_matt12@yahoo.com

softwareproductbacking@rediffmail.com

someneedsyou@hotmail.com

sonia_bassey29@yahoo.fr

sonliv@yahoo.com

stallionlomox@yahoo.com

star@terra.net.lb

steinhserjanrudolf@yahoo.de

stephanie247@yahoo.com

sterlingtonlinebanking.com

stevali@xtra.co.nz

stevenselder0976@yahoo.com

sunnyreal_love@hotmail.com

superbomber188@yahoo.com

surf_miller@yahoo.com

susan_nelson01@yahoo.com

sussyonlove@gmail.com

synthia_kofi005@yahoo.co.uk

talentedthomasx@yahoo.com

tancharly@hotmail.com

teresamorientex@yahoo.com

terry_blueboat@yahoo.com

tinacalcyac@yahoo.com

tobi_tosin@yahoo.co.uk

tommoore345@gmail.com

tommy_smith00001@yahoo.com

tonele99@yahoo.de

tony_jeo20072@yahoo.com

tony_moore0011@yahoo.com

topdb2@yahoo.com

tqm_biz@yahoo.com

tranworldlltduae@yahoo.com

trinaventures23@gmail.com

uba_chukwuma@yahoo.com

unsworth0023@inmail24.com

veracruz_002@yahoo.com

vikkysexy4u@gmail.com 

victec_venturesltd13@yahoo.com

vulture_09@yahoo.ie

w.steve7@yahoo.com

wallcortdupri102@yahoo.com

wasdam2000@gmail.com

wscott11@dada.net

waziriaminu@aol.co.uk

webinfor1900@bellsouth.net

whereistruelove1@yahoo.co.uk

willespay@yahoo.com

williamhenry103@yahoo.com

williamsjohnson1@excite.com

williamstev011@hotmail.com

wilsmith_ron@hotmail.com

wkoemer0123@yahoo.com

wollyfoxmaga@yahoo.com

wrighthung001@hotmail.com

wrtao_12221@yahoo.com

www@www.wljhs.tpc.edu.tw

xklusive50@hotmail.com

yik_tine@yahoo.com.uk

yommcandy925@hotmail.com

youssoufseidi78@yahoo.com.uk

zsi@goodrich.com

 

While all contact established to date, that we are aware of, has been via e-mail, there is one exception:  Donald Welsch.  We have received information from clients that Mr. Welsch has been contacting them via the telephone - so, please - use extreme care when dealing with any of the above metioned e-mail addresses.

 

As always, American-ag & Heavy Equipment is only happy to assist buyers and sellers, and should you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact us.

 

UPDATE 3/07 -  As you can probably see from the above list, the largest source of spammers we deal with ge


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